Thu Nov 11 19:20:07 +0000 2021
“I came to regard that fandom as being pretty close to a cult […] And that’s about how I’ve come to regard all fandoms now.”
Andrew Hussie on life after Homestuck: polygon.com/features/22674…
Thu Nov 11 23:16:33 +0000 2021
Okay, so I have a whole thing about Psycholonials planned, so I won't get super deep in the weeds on this, but let's skim this for the highlights. There's some interesting stuff here. twitter.com/Polygon/status…
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 23:22:27 +0000 2021
1. Andrew Hussie personally identifies with Zhen in a lot of ways, especially with her loss of control over her movement and attempted personal rebranding.
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 23:24:37 +0000 2021
2. Andrew sees Psycholonials as an "anti-cult narrative", which… if you've read the story and the consequences the various cult leaders and members have for their actions, is odd.
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 23:28:06 +0000 2021
3. Further, "cult" is very much how he characterizes fandom as a whole. There's a lot here I actually agree with about toxic volatility, although I expect we're imaging two very different people.
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 23:31:16 +0000 2021
4. He has some interesting thoughts about wanting to not be deified or made into a blank-slate character for fans to project onto in a parasocial way. I'm intensely curious whether or not this is reflection he had after writing himself into Homestuck as a blank-slate god figure.
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 23:34:52 +0000 2021
5. Directly following him praising himself for stepping away from the spotlight and not becoming a cult leader, he laments how he somehow lost control over his brand. He doesn't say what he imagines the "preposterous hallucinatory projections" to be, though.
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 23:37:41 +0000 2021
6. This article also gets into the Hiveswap controversy and… this is where I have to get into how this article is bad. Let's start with this absurd paragraph that paints Sarah Z's video as hallucinatory rambling accusations without addressing its validity or even linking to it.
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 23:41:31 +0000 2021
It's not hard to see that the author (priv, so I won't @ them) isn't exactly a subject matter expert about that "controversy", as they're somehow under the impression that Hiveswap is finished. (Wonder if that has something to do with getting all your information from Andrew?)
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 23:45:08 +0000 2021
Instead, the article resorts to classic both-sides-y handwringing about "public theater" and how Sarah and I ignited reddit with "speculation". This is not a good look when someone has serious, credible accusations against them!
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 23:45:08 +0000 2021
(In fact, compulsive middle-of-the-road-ness is something Sarah herself was blasted for by some people when *her* first video came out! Then she did more research and refined her opinion based on the evidence, which was the correct thing to do)
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 23:51:44 +0000 2021
This exhausts the meat of the article, aside from a bunch of weird false and misleading insinuations about fandom people, including me.
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 23:53:11 +0000 2021
It's also incredible in its own right that an article about Andrew's intersection with fandom managed to get around addressing any of the actual controversies. Like, that took some real verbal athletics. Unless it was just omitted for ease, but would journalism do that?
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 23:58:29 +0000 2021
"Fandom" here is treated as a great force of nature, some all-consuming external flood whose machinations are unknowable and that can only ever be fled from. Absolutely no attention is paid to how the creator's decisions form and curate their audience
Replying to giovan_h:Fri Nov 12 00:00:04 +0000 2021
It's true that the author of a work doesn't have an absolute enthralling power over their fans, but to pretend there is *no* connection and that both parties are helpless victims at each others' whims is obviously dishonest.
Replying to giovan_h:Fri Nov 12 00:02:12 +0000 2021
But this is done intentionally, because granting there's a dynamic there to interrogate at all invites public discussion about the actual actions taken by both audience and author, which is something Andrew has absolutely refused to engage with on any terms.
Thu Nov 11 22:56:58 +0000 2021
i can’t believe polygon put out a hit piece on me
Replying to giovan_h:Thu Nov 11 22:59:09 +0000 2021
@giovan_h Did they even interview you beforehand?
Replying to marysuewriter:Fri Nov 12 01:23:10 +0000 2021
(Also, to be clear, I have nothing against the author- it looks like this was mostly just intended to be a nice fluff piece on a creator and their work. I just take umbrage with how some of the real harm WP did was glossed over or justified and the language used in certain parts)
Fri Nov 12 17:22:36 +0000 2021
It's interesting to see a dude who once thought Homestuck could be as big of a franchise as Star Wars frame himself as he does in this piece without any real pushback lmao twitter.com/Polygon/status…