Itâs been eight months since what Iâve jokingly called my Homestuck Divorce.
I published The Unofficial Homestuck Collection Takedown and The Homestuck Union Was Always Fake explaining everything, but theyâre very long.
I think I did need to be thorough in documenting those details, but the information thatâs relevant to most people is hard to consume.
People kept asking me to summarize and Iâd rather just have this out there so I donât have to think about it again.
I donât want to have to come back to Homestuck, so this is a tl;dr retrospective summary to organize my thoughts and capture this question that still keeps coming up: âwhat happened?â
The Homestuck Independent Creative Union was announced in October 2023, claiming itself to be a âunionâ of creators working on Homestuck associated projects.
The main selling point of this organization is that it was fully independent of Homestuck, Inc., Andrew Hussie, or any of the other existing management structures that had damaged their reputations.
This was untrue from day one.
The HICU was never a union and it was never independent of Andrew.
In fact Andrew doesnât just have theoretical authority, theyâre actively wielding power over projects in secret.
I want to give a very important disclaimer for this âanti-HICUâ looking article because I really, really donât want to see blame misplaced because of this.
I think when most people familiar with it think of the HICU, the reaction is âoh, theyâre doing betterâ or even âyeah, Iâm on their side.â
I donât fault you for this!
Based on what they said about themselves many people â including me personally â gave the HICU a huge amount of good credit upfront, and theyâve done very little publicly to hurt that image.
So if youâre an HICU person â if youâre with FRAF, or DCRC, or even Beyond Canon â I am not attacking you with this!
I am not against your âside.â The problem here is not the creatives, itâs strictly management.
Whether youâre a fan or someone trying to work with the union, you are the one at risk here and I want to help you most of all.
Around October 2023 Andrew Hussie ârestructuredâ Homestuckâs publishing agreement with Viz Media in order to reestablish their âcontrol over the brand.â
Homestuck then announced the relaunch of Homestuck^2: Beyond Canon, run by the also newly-announced Homestuck Independent Creative Union.
The Homestuck Independent Creative Union was announced in October 2023, claiming itself to be a âunionâ of creators working on Homestuck associated projects.
The main selling point of this organization is that it was fully independent of Homestuck, Inc., Andrew Hussie, or any of the other existing management structures that had damaged their reputations.
This was untrue from day one.
The HICU was never a union and it was never independent of Andrew.
In fact Andrew doesnât just have theoretical authority, theyâre actively wielding power over projects in secret.
I want to give a very important disclaimer for this âanti-HICUâ looking article because I really, really donât want to see blame misplaced because of this.
I think when most people familiar with it think of the HICU, the reaction is âoh, theyâre doing betterâ or even âyeah, Iâm on their side.â
I donât fault you for this!
Based on what they said about themselves many people â including me personally â gave the HICU a huge amount of good credit upfront, and theyâve done very little publicly to hurt that image.
So if youâre an HICU person â if youâre with FRAF, or DCRC, or even Beyond Canon â I am not attacking you with this!
I am not against your âside.â The problem here is not the creatives, itâs strictly management.
Whether youâre a fan or someone trying to work with the union, you are the one at risk here and I want to help you most of all.
Around October 2023 Andrew Hussie ârestructuredâ Homestuckâs publishing agreement with Viz Media in order to reestablish their âcontrol over the brand.â
Homestuck then announced the relaunch of Homestuck^2: Beyond Canon, run by the also newly-announced Homestuck Independent Creative Union.
Since November 2023 The Unofficial Homestuck Collection has been entangled in legal discussions with Homestuck and Andrew Hussie.1
This was quickly revealed to be a false pretext: in reality, Andrew Hussie used a fake offer of collaboration to launch a hostile takeover of the UHC.
Andrew Hussie has sent the UHC maintainers (GiovanH and Bambosh) a series of takedown demands and persistently threatened this project with spurious lawsuits.
Andrew demanded we turn over full control of the fan project to them, demanded we remove previous essays on Homestuck, and demanded we denounce some specific critics of theirs they have a personal grudge against.
They even threatened a lawsuit on the basis that we used the word âHomestuckâ in the title âUnofficial Homestuck Collectionâ.
As a result of this outrageous conduct, I am forced to take down The Unofficial Homestuck Collectionâs web presence at Homestuckâs demand.
The current set of legal takedown demands does not affect the GitHub repository itself, so releases of the reader are still available separate from the website takedown we were forced to act on.
An outdated copy of the reader and some assets are currently also available from a copy Homestuck made of the collection against our wishes (homestuck.github.io) â more on this later.
However, the original team behind the collection (Bambosh and Gio) has been forced to stop supporting our work.
This was not driven by copyright concern, but was Andrew Hussie attempting a hostile takeover of a fan project and demanding absolute control over not only the content of the archive but which fans and creators its contributors were allowed to associate with.
As I ultimately conclude: Homestuck is radioactive.
Hostile Takeover
In November 2023 Homestuck sent me and Bambosh (co-creators of the UHC) an offer to collaborate on The Unofficial Homestuck Collection.
We initially engaged with this offer because it came with a commitment to respect the projectâs independence and for the collaboration to be fully insulated from previous personal grievances.
But this pretense of constructive collaboration turned out to be false almost immediately.
For the entire period of time since the first communication â now multiple years â Homestuck has used threats, lies, legal shakedowns, and other psychological pressure tactics to attempt to seize control of The Unofficial Homestuck Collection in a hostile takeover.
There was never a legal basis for Homestuck to control The Unofficial collection, and so they have been attempting to use extra-legal tactics to do so.
While the archival impact is unfortunate, the main complaint here is not that we were entitled to distribute Homestuck and itâs wrong that weâve had to stop.
We have no particular legal right to reproduce or distribute the copyrighted Homestuck material, and so did not feel entitled to continue doing it.
The fact that executing the takedown demands weâve received results in material being inaccessible is a side effect of a deeper problem.
The problem is that the way Andrew acted is completely unacceptable.
They demanded control over work that was not theirs, demanded we denounce their personal enemies, demanded we recant previous criticisms, and more.
This was all done under a pretense of constructive collaboration with the community that turned out to be false from the beginning.
Ultimately Andrew has demanded (in violation of their own assurances) that we denounce previous criticism of Homestuck management and give full managerial control over the independent Collection project over to Andrew and their chosen delegates.
Under this extortion we would be required to participate in Andrewâs attempt to sweep their past professional misconduct under the rug, and we would remain subordinate to any other demands they made to use the project to attempt to control the fan community.
We have not allowed this hostile takeover to happen to the UHC.
Since Andrew has fully committed to hostility towards us and fan projects in general and demanded things we cannot give them, Iâm choosing to disengage rather than face a perpetual series of baseless legal attacks and other harassment.
Since November 2023 The Unofficial Homestuck Collection has been entangled in legal discussions with Homestuck and Andrew Hussie.1
This was quickly revealed to be a false pretext: in reality, Andrew Hussie used a fake offer of collaboration to launch a hostile takeover of the UHC.
Andrew Hussie has sent the UHC maintainers (GiovanH and Bambosh) a series of takedown demands and persistently threatened this project with spurious lawsuits.
Andrew demanded we turn over full control of the fan project to them, demanded we remove previous essays on Homestuck, and demanded we denounce some specific critics of theirs they have a personal grudge against.
They even threatened a lawsuit on the basis that we used the word âHomestuckâ in the title âUnofficial Homestuck Collectionâ.
As a result of this outrageous conduct, I am forced to take down The Unofficial Homestuck Collectionâs web presence at Homestuckâs demand.
The current set of legal takedown demands does not affect the GitHub repository itself, so releases of the reader are still available separate from the website takedown we were forced to act on.
An outdated copy of the reader and some assets are currently also available from a copy Homestuck made of the collection against our wishes (homestuck.github.io) â more on this later.
However, the original team behind the collection (Bambosh and Gio) has been forced to stop supporting our work.
This was not driven by copyright concern, but was Andrew Hussie attempting a hostile takeover of a fan project and demanding absolute control over not only the content of the archive but which fans and creators its contributors were allowed to associate with.
As I ultimately conclude: Homestuck is radioactive.
Hostile Takeover
In November 2023 Homestuck sent me and Bambosh (co-creators of the UHC) an offer to collaborate on The Unofficial Homestuck Collection.
We initially engaged with this offer because it came with a commitment to respect the projectâs independence and for the collaboration to be fully insulated from previous personal grievances.
But this pretense of constructive collaboration turned out to be false almost immediately.
For the entire period of time since the first communication â now multiple years â Homestuck has used threats, lies, legal shakedowns, and other psychological pressure tactics to attempt to seize control of The Unofficial Homestuck Collection in a hostile takeover.
There was never a legal basis for Homestuck to control The Unofficial collection, and so they have been attempting to use extra-legal tactics to do so.
While the archival impact is unfortunate, the main complaint here is not that we were entitled to distribute Homestuck and itâs wrong that weâve had to stop.
We have no particular legal right to reproduce or distribute the copyrighted Homestuck material, and so did not feel entitled to continue doing it.
The fact that executing the takedown demands weâve received results in material being inaccessible is a side effect of a deeper problem.
The problem is that the way Andrew acted is completely unacceptable.
They demanded control over work that was not theirs, demanded we denounce their personal enemies, demanded we recant previous criticisms, and more.
This was all done under a pretense of constructive collaboration with the community that turned out to be false from the beginning.
Ultimately Andrew has demanded (in violation of their own assurances) that we denounce previous criticism of Homestuck management and give full managerial control over the independent Collection project over to Andrew and their chosen delegates.
Under this extortion we would be required to participate in Andrewâs attempt to sweep their past professional misconduct under the rug, and we would remain subordinate to any other demands they made to use the project to attempt to control the fan community.
We have not allowed this hostile takeover to happen to the UHC.
Since Andrew has fully committed to hostility towards us and fan projects in general and demanded things we cannot give them, Iâm choosing to disengage rather than face a perpetual series of baseless legal attacks and other harassment.
Somebody asked me about a comment I made online about the odd situation raised by the state of Homestuck^2 and Hiveswapâs authorship. I sent them a long message but by the time I was done I realized I had quite a few thoughts on the issue, and so this is me expanding that out a bit.
Authorial teams
Probably the defining aspect of the âpost-canonâ Homestuck era has been the deliberate movement away from Andrewâs auteurship and to the form of these nebulous authorial teams. Itâs almost impossible to overstate how key Andrew and his personal identity was to Homestuck and its interactions with fandom, and this period represented a deliberate and forced shift away from that.
What Happened With Homestuck? (Recap)
